AstroMediComp

Dear Students,

This is Yogeshwar again, extending a warm welcome to the prospective students to our large family and saying hello to past and present students. First of all, let me congratulate and express heartfelt thanks to all the volunteers who have devoted their time and efforts, in revising the admission process and making it more flawless and pleasant experience, although we think time and prospective students are better qualified to judge that. Before you proceed, please note that I have written this note on the behalf of and by the authority of Dr. Vijay Gokhale sir and it’s an outcome of many hours discussion with sir, think-tank and final contents have been approved by sir.

Why did we change the admission process?

From the beginning, admissions happened on first come, first serve (henceforth referred to as FCFS at some places) basis. But from last several batches number of applicants has grown in large proportions. Just to give you an idea, last Unix batch saw nearly 1000 students for 150 odd sits. And to ensure the admission, students started forming queues 12-14 hours earlier than the declared time. Last time, some students reportedly came at 4 AM for the admissions starting from 7 PM. We are obviously very overwhelmed and gratified by this kind of love, response and genuine desire to learn of such students! But due to practical limitation of man power, we are not able to keep track of who came first and who came later from 4 AM. And last thing we want is, not being able to implement “first come, first serve” to the students who are ready to toil for twelve hours just to get right place in the queue. Most regretfully, despite of our best efforts, such kind of injustice happened to some students. Also there is an increasing probability of prosecution, from the people in the nearby residential areas, for occupying public road by so many and for so long. And we feel, their agitation is not entirely unjustified. So we decided to go on-line from this time onwards and have also made some additional reforms in the process to remove the flaws appeared due to sheer scale.

The Revised admission procedure:

In this section I will describe revised admission process, and rationale behind it. It consists of three steps.

1. On-line registration: This contains multiple steps, described as follows. Take your time to finish this step carefully, don’t be in unnecessary hurry because admissions are NOT first come first serve. Early on-line registration does not guarantee admission in anyway.

   1. Filling the form: From 9:00, 15th May 2012 to 23:59, 18th May 2012, on-line admission form will be available here. You need to fill up the details and submit the form. Submitting the form DOES NOT COMPLETE ON-LINE REGISTRATION.

   2. Confirmation of on-line registration: You will be asked your email address in the form. Please make sure that you provide VALID email address. After submitting the form you will be mailed CONFIRMATION LINK. You should immediately log into your email and click on the confirmation link. Then you will be directed to a page which contains few questions. Don’t worry! Questions won’t be technical in nature but will be related your background and motive behind joining the class. Although NOTHING in admission process depends on your responses, think properly and answer these question, because page will be displayed only once. If we find that you have treated these questions casually, then we have right to disqualify you from the admission process. After you have finished with the responses , click on “Finish Registration” button and then your on-line registration is complete. You will be mailed unique registration ID, which you should preserve for the future reference.

2. In person verification and discussion: In the admission form, you will be asked to mention identification document that you can produce. You must verify yourself in person producing the same document as  mentioned in the form. Valid choices of identity documents are PAN card, driving license, voter ID issued by Election commission, passport or Adhar card. Please note that you will not be admitted without valid identity proof. After completing identification process, you will have a discussion round with the panel of past students related to your responses of the questions you have answered. Your discussions WILL NOT affect the final outcome of the admission. Knowing the aspirations, motive behind joining class, and other general opinions about software industry of 500-1000 students and professionals together coming from very diverse background is an INVALUABLE input to sir who is deeply concerned with academia. This step is MANDATORY. You will not be admitted unless you verify yourself in person with valid identity proof and go through the discussion round. Date, time and venue for the same will be conveyed to you after you successfully complete Step I.
   Important: Please note that although everybody can register on-line, there is some hard limit placed on number of people called for the discussion round. The hard limit is TWICE as much as the highest number of applications we have received in last 9 years. So for all practical purposes you can safely assume that if you have registered on-line successfully (that is finished step I successfully) then you will be called for the discussion round (i.e. you are automatically qualified for step II).

3. Final List and fee payment: Out of all applications, 200 applications will be selected through a random selection procedure. Only under special circumstances Dr Vijay Gokhale sir and Mrs. Rama Gokhale (sir’s better half) can intervene. Final list of admitted students will be displayed on 7th of June and the admitted students will make payment on 9th and 10th of June. Time and venue for the same will be conveyed on 7th of June.

Rationale Behind Random Selection:

There may be some reservations regarding the random selection process and quite understandably so. To establish criterion for selecting 200 odd students out of thrice as many applicants without doing ANY JUDGMENT (like technical test etc.) and without doing any INJUSTICE is certainly a herculean task. Till date, we tried to follow KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid) principle by following first come first serve which was the simplest method that worked. But for the reasons cited above, it no longer works. Now which method should replace this?

Many suggestions and alternatives involve conducting test of some kind viz. technical, aptitude etc. but we discourage it because we are strongly against the selection on the basis of present abilities of the students. We have been and we always want to remain open to students of all levels of abilities. In fact, sir cares more about students , who have been left behind the race due to various reasons. Moreover, many past students, who now assume successful positions, would testify that they would not have cleared any test had it been conducted in their time. So we choose to BELIEVE in the hidden potential disregarding present abilities.

On this background, we argue about random selection procedure.

1. Randomization process impartial, unbiased,and will ensure that nobody is denied chance due to trivial factors like geographic location, company/college schedule, traffic and human errors like inability to manage queue. This also answers why not FCFS on-line. Because we cannot assume reliable availability of Internet to all esp students coming from remote places.

2. In first come first serve, only first 200-250 people feel involved in the process and others are left out. In the current process everybody registered will have an equal chance of getting admission. And registration is available to all for four days. This way we remain open to all and offer equal chance to all.
   

3. We will ensure that our randomization process will do justice to people who did not make it this time but apply next time. So don’t be worried about luck working every-time against you. Because even in FCFS, there have been people who could not make it despite trying twice or thrice. With persistence, you will defy your luck. Something which you cannot say with conviction with FCFS!!

4. Discomfort about randomized selection may arise because one feels no control over the process. FCFS method at least provides hope that one can do something about it, like getting up at 4 am and go. But ask people who have done it and they will tell you, when final queue is formed, its random in small way if not completely random. So why not make it consciously random offering equal chance to all? Why deny equal chance to all by clinging to the false hope that you can do something to guarantee your admission? Why not be more considerate towards girls who cannot physically push their way in large crowd and hence always left behind despite coming early? Why not be considerate towards people who are too shy or timid to speak even when they are being swept aside by more aggressive people? Why not do it in more civilized way?

5. Finally, I would like to say, like democracy its the least flawed system we could think of. Even if its not perfect, we are at least creating a framework within which no BLATANT injustice is being done. Because blatant injustice is when people come 12 hours before trusting us that its first come first serve and still do not manage to get admit! And if any blatant injustice happens in this system then Dr Vijay Gokhale sir can and will intervene and correct that (like he did last time with FCFS).

6. If you can think of better process without involving test of any kind, which does not sweep aside less able students and offers equal chance to all, we are delighted to hear about it. It will definitely receive a due consideration.

   Thank you for being patient with us. Wish you all, a pleasant admission experience and luck!

P.S. If you encounter any difficulty at any stage of the admission process please contact Shrenik Vikam at +91-9822599001.

गुरु कसा असावा?
असा प्रश्न विचारण्यात आला.
काय द्यावे उत्तर हेच कोण उमजे ना.

गुरु कुठला असावा?
असा प्रश्न विचारण्यात आला.
काय करू देवा वाचा कोणाचीच फुटेना.

मग एके दिवशी भेटली एक व्यक्ती,
आणि मग सुचली एक युक्ती.
गुरु म्हणजे ज्ञानाचा झरा.
गुरु म्हणजे आसमंत सारा.
गुरु उन्हात सावली.
गुरु साक्षात माउली.

संस्काराचा पाया आई घरात उभारी,
तोच करी भक्कम गुरु ज्ञानाच्या द्वारी.

आई आपल्या देते दाणा हा टिपायला,
म्हणे दाणा देयील बळ उद्या आकाशात उडायला.

गुरु हेच तर करी,फरक करू नका काही.
मग गुरूंनाच आपण आई का म्हणू नाही?

गुरु म्हणजे आरसा असावा , खरं तेच सांगणारा,
गुरु म्हणजे देव मानवा, जनास आवडणारा .

गुरु म्हणजे माणूस जाणावा हाडा मांसाचा,
माणसातल्या देवाशीच गुंफण घालणारा .

मी पाहिलंय मझ्या गुरूंना प्राण पणान शिकवताना,
हसत मुखाने सहन करतात ते खूप मूक यातना.

ठेवा थोडी जाण त्या महान माणसाची,
जो काळजी करत नाही त्या कपाळावरच्या दवबिंदू पुसण्याची,

गुरु समवेत वसते सरस्वती ठायी ठायी,
अर्पिते ह्या ओळी फक्त आपल्या सरांच्या पायीं.

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सोनल सुनील सालकाडे.

From : Somebody (Sir does not want to disclose the name).
date : Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 8:12 PM
subject : “AstroMediComp Contact: WORST MANAGEMENT”

Message:
Respected Gokhale Sir,
I don’t know you will see this or not but i am sorry to say that this
time i have seen one of the worst management skills from your side.
The people who are managing UNIX Admissions showed the worst attitude
they can. Whenever you do something do it right it is something i
learned from you only.Well i don’t think this all stuff is good enough
now. I don’t like people with priorities its the same as doing
partiality.

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— On Sun, 12/11/11, DR.VIJAY GOKHALE <astromedicomp@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: DR.VIJAY GOKHALE <astromedicomp@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re :AstroMediComp Contact: WORST MANAGEMENT
> To: Mr. Somebody (to the one who sent mail, we are not disclosing name)
> Date: Sunday, December 11, 2011, 5:00 AM
Date: Sunday, December 11, 2011, 5:00 AM
Hello Mr Somebody

Let me tell you , http://www.astromedicomp.org is the site  started and  maintained by my students. Even I myself refused its  membership. Obviously  your mail first received by Shrenik Vikam ( Admin of the site ) and he  forwarded it to me. Its 1-30 AM ( late night 25-30 ). I am  replying you.

First thing first. I will not thank you for bringing “said  injustice” to  my attention — “BY EMAIL”. I don’t like this “IT”way.  I am  a believer of  Person-To-Person and Eye-To-Eye contact. So please,  come  forward. Prove  your allegation. You have nothing to loose neither to  fear from.
By the way ___ Are you my student? ( line in your mail “learned from  you”  is misguiding )  If yes, then why didn’t you directly  mailed/called/meet me?  My student  might have done that before writing directly something  like this. Alright,  Still its never too late. Come today ( its sunday so  probably you will have holiday ) at 9-30 PM to meet me in  the class. If your allegations are true,  action will be taken immediately in your presence and  with  presence of all others.  If you are not my student, then you don’t know me nor  my  philosophy nor  my student’s attitude. If they are rude, then yes,  that is  due to me.  I am a very orthodox, rude, shrewd, impractical  teacher and  all my students  ( from Class/DAC/WiMC/DiVESD/DACA ) know that very  well and  also bear me  very well up till now.

Many times I myself prioritise things using my own  rights  to those who  prove worthy of that priority ( not partiality ). For  Example, out of crying twins, mother chooses one to  feed,  keeping other one to wait for a  while. I don’t think someone will call that mother  “partial”. I myself, being a teacher ( who is considered  third, after mother and father ) have  rights to choose who should be admitted and who should  not.  As my class  runs with — no computers, no banners, no boards, no  advertisements,  no guarantees, no warranties, no syllabus  considerations,  no promises,  no welcomes and with “student decided” fees without  any  receipts, I do  have all those rights with me. These things are OPEN  TO ALL. KNOWN TO ALL. NEVER HIDDEN. Just like Bachchan said in Agneepath,  “Main  Kala Dhanda Bhi Andhere Mein Nahi Karata”.
NOTE : By the way, using these rights, I am going to  choose  some extra  admissions on my own for those who proved  themselves worthy of it. As like for every batch, these admissions will be free of costs.

*** Somebody, do you think this is  partiality?  oh yes, it is. If you met me before ( just like them ), you might be part of this quota/partiality after  proving worthy of it. If you don’t know this, then its sure that you are  not my student. Because every batch has this quota/partiality.

If you are not my student, then you loose all above details. My class always begins with first 3 days about “WHO SHOULD NOT  ATTEND MY CLASS”.  Many of my students have audio recordings of those 3  days.  After listening  or knowing their contents, you may found that  whatever  happened was good  and you got saved from wasting your precious money  and  time. you may also  found that my class may not be a proper place for  great  soul like you. So please, I request you, do not attend my classes  ever. My class may not be worthy of your presence. Actually I  am  disappointed by that person who  recommended my class for you.  My students are my pride and they make me proud. I  have  blind faith for  them. If you are my student, obviously you are one of  them.  Do you know,  Once I told one of my relative that I don’t need  “your”  support for my coffin as I do have my students to do that. Do you know this?  My students do.

If your allegation gets proved, then all efforts taken  by  me up till now are just wasted and there remains no reason for  building/cultivating the morals henceforth. So please  come  forward to prove this failure. Prove  your allegation. You have nothing to loose neither to  fear  from.

PS: Are you surprised to see how one can write so  “lengthy”  email, at so late night, when recipient himself ( means you )
may  be under sweet, deep sleep? Are you really my student?

Still …..
God bless you.
Dr. Gokhale Sir.

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